I'm disappointed with the trim & option combinations presented in the build tool.

Oodaloop

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The Gladiator interests me because I would of loved to get a Wrangler but am currently in need of a vehicle that can also tow. So the Gladiator obviously is going to interest me.

I am however disappointed and find the combination of what options are available for which trims to be odd. Specifically the Overland trim.

There are four trims. Sport, Sport S, Overland, and Rubicon listed in order of their hierarchy respectively

The Sport trim makes sense as a base model. It has the standard offroad setup, most basic option choices, and a 5 inch touchscreen BUT can still be equipped to achieve the max tow rating.

The Rubicon trim makes sense as the top model. It has the best off road setup, premium option choices, a 8.4 inch touchscreen BUT it can NOT achieve the max tow rating, which makes sense since it is geared for off roading.

The Sport S (What do you suppose the "S" stands for? It's usually "Sport", so is it the Sport Sport trim? It's a silly name) builds on the Sport by giving you more standard features, premium options, a 7 inch touchscreen, and still the ability to achieve the max tow rating.

The Overland is odd in that it continues to build on the Sport S with even more standard features, the same premium options, and a larger 8.4 inch touchscreen, BUT it also does NOT let you get the 4.10 Rear Axle Ratio that you can get with the Sport and Sport S trim, which I believe is the only thing holding it back from being able to achieve the maximum tow rating.

Basically what I'm saying is,

The Rubicon is the premium trim with all the nice standard features & premium options while gaining 4x4 ability yet losing towing capacity,
then shouldn't
The Overland be the premium trim with all the nice standard features & premium options that has maximum towing but not all the 4x4 ability of the Rubicon?

I'd like to get an Overland and its options w/ the max tow capacity.

Unfortunately though with the current combination of models/trim I'd have to choose between the Sport S and lose the nicer standard features and 8.4 inch touchscreen or get a Rubicon and lose the max towing. The Overland should bridge the two trims yet it doesn't.

PS. My other grief is the gas V6 will have 285hp/260tq yet the reports on the to be released later diesel model will have 260hp/442tq yet will tow LESS than the gas V6 because of cooling issues. Really? Cooling issues? You put that beast of a motor in an already class leading tow rated vehicle and the tow rating goes DOWN? Come on guys, you can do better than that. If I was an engineer there I'd be embarrassed at that fact.

Sorry for the negative post, but I only post this so hopefully the people in power will see this and make the changes before things are set in stone. I really like this vehicle and I mention these things because the vehicle is SO close to perfect. Fix these things and a Overland Diesel w/ 8.4 inch touchscreen, leather, all the safety tech, rear lsd, and max towing will definitely be my next vehicle.
 
Dec 30, 2018
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Thanks for pointing all of this out, Oodaloop. And you're absolutely right - I think it's good to share some things that are not the best features, so that maybe the makers will take heed before they roll out the newer models.

Funny, I had no idea what the "S" was in the Sport S, but, yeah, that is kind of odd if it means "Sport". Sport Sport? Hmmm.

Anyhow, thanks for breaking this down. You've raised some points that will definitely have an effect on my decision-making when it's time to buy.
 
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Well, I would still go with the Overland, because if I'm going to have a pickup, I'm going to be towing things. That's what's kind of important to me. When you have a pickup, you find lots of uses for it.
 

Oodaloop

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Well, I would still go with the Overland, because if I'm going to have a pickup, I'm going to be towing things. That's what's kind of important to me. When you have a pickup, you find lots of uses for it.
That's my point. You can't get max towing with the Overland. Makes no sense to not have a premium max towing model, which should be the Overland model.
 

Boltz

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Great points, Oodaloop. I guess having a Jeep pickup makes it good to be able to load up your gear and head out to the dunes. However, if you can't fit it all in the bed, you might be out of luck. And this bed is not all that big, so you have to make sure it suits your purposes.